Do you hate your guild members? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Slainster · Oct 18, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

i love my guild!!!''

i love the people in my guild!!!

i love the "mood" in the guild

im with you on this one, my guild rocks!

Thallandor · Oct 23, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

When you put conditions/requirements for someone to be your friend, that person has cease to become your friend.

Knight of Fate · Oct 31, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Bad luck for you then. I love my guild leader. XD

Daniel__ · Oct 31, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum

I usually don't last more than two weeks or so in a guild, before I leave because I can't stand the members.

I don't know why, but something about most guilds just annoys the hell out of me. I can't stand it when people have to announce every little triumph of their day, or constantly ask people for free things or something like that... It really takes a lot of restraint not to flame them. Sometimes I do then leave

.

Most guilds are crap anyways. You join a guild so you have reliable people to play the game with right? Why then do I have to constantly rely on PUGS for everything everytime I join a guild? I can't even get UW partners from any of my guilds...

So yea, the next time I join a guild and see someone bragging because they beat someone on their touch ranger, I think I'm going to flip out.

It sounds like you the one who has the problem. And by some post I have read before written by you, Yes... you the one who has the problem.

Cats · Nov 01, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

You have to enter a guild with the right attitude. Give, to be given. Help, to be helped. I detest people who just sit around and whine about how nobody cares to help them when they wouldn't lift a finger to do the same with someone else.

Carth` · Nov 01, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Yeah I have this problem too. The only thing that keeps me in a guild is if there are some people who I really like. It seems like 90% of the Guild Wars population are 12 year olds who ask questions like:

"what is a 55 monk?"
"how do i get to hzh?"
"what is the best secondary for <class>?"
"what is the best weapon, sword or axe?"
"where can i get rid of my pet?"
"when does <event> start?"
"where can i get <hero>?"
"how can i make money?"
"can anyone give me <amount of gold>"
"wts <rubbish item that nobody except the merchant would buy>"
"wtb <expensive item> for <ridiculously cheap price>"
"how much is <something nobody would buy> worth?"

It would be OK if it was just the occasional question, but it's not. Someone asks one of these questions every 30 seconds, even if someone already answered it 2 mins ago. If they don't get an answer, they ask it again and again and again and again OH GOD!!!! Fine I'll look up the answer for you on GuildWiki!

What makes it worse is that giving someone a very easy to understand answer often makes them start PMing you trying to get you to explain it further, even though there is no way for you to phrase it simpler.

This could be because I'm in a big alliance that it is such a problem.

If I have a question, guess what? I look on a website. It takes me 1 min to look something up, or do a search. And often, when these people are spamming guild/alliance chat with the question because nobody is answering, I end up looking it up for them just so that they shut up.

I never had this problem in a small guild though, where all the members are your friends and you know them personally. It's just when you are in an alliance with 10 guilds, and each guild has 100 members that it gets very impersonal and turns into a Q&A chatroom.

It just really gets on my tits when everybody asks for help doing stuff that you had to do for yourself to get where you are.

Sophitia Leafblade · Nov 01, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

I love my Guild & Alliance !! Everyone gets along, were all helpful to each other, We love to team up together and do things including just generally having fun. We may be a relativly small guild compared to some but we all would rather fight beside a few of our guildies than an army of random people (no offense to anyone

). Weve become like a family and we all look after each other.

Thorinfire · Nov 01, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

I actually really liked the Guild I was in "Redemption of the Phoenix" (xRPx). I was a member of that guild since its inception last March and also a member of its ancestor Guild "Fantasy Kingdom" There are a lot of good folks in that guild. One or two I didn't get along with but hey in any group sometimes there are a few.

Now the guild leader is a different story, very prone to lashing out and making hasty judgements. A good friend of mine knew her back in the Diablo II days and says she was basically the same in that game.

Well I stuck it out for the last 8 months because I really liked the members, I even recruited about a half a dozen people one of which is now an officer. Then I got booted last week, no warning, no PM at our website, no nothing. And Ill be the first to admit I haven't been very active lately because of some RL issues and I was kind of burnt out with factions and just waiting for Nightfall. I did log in about once a week none the less because the guild rule is no logging in for over two weeks and you get booted.

I come to find out the guild leader, had another hissy fit and quit, and then rejoined the next day, and of course became the guild leader again. (Her husband also plays). The she proceeds to boot 18 people because we weren't active enough. No rule change, no warning, just a dumpex.

Needless to say Im not going back.

So ya I liked my guildies, I just dont appreciate a leader who doesn't grasp the concept of leadership...........

Amity and Truth · Nov 01, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Not as much the guild but moreover something that annoys me about the community in a whole. The total and utter lack of autonomy. It's like some of them can't do a damn step without asking first.
I have answered questions, i have answered lots and lots of them. No problem, i know the answers anyways but what i really don't like are poeple that can't do a step on their own.

Quote:

"I heard there is a storage upgrade?"
"Yep."
"How do i get it?"
"Talk to the NPC near the Storage in Kaineng"
"Do i have to click yes?"
"Hnnng, no. Of course you click no, you don't want the storage upgrade after all."
"Didn't work!"
"..."

And sometimes they just don't like my answer at all, getting all pissed and aggressive even though it's just the way it is. I mean, seriously... they ask another person simply because they don't want to believe my answer. Meh, maybe i'm too sarcastic at times but if there is a huge button "Yes, create my storage upgrade" and people ask me what to click to get that storage upgrade i just can't give a normal answer anymore. Nope chummer, think for yourself a bit.
And something i really don't like is when they start to argue and hammer onto their "facts"

Quote:

"SV is bugged! I don't see the numbers when i'm casting on you."
"Two reasons, we're fighting spellcasters and the person which it is cast upon sees the numbers."
"No i've seen the numbers minutes ago!"
"That is because you've casted it on yourself."
"I have never casted it on myself!"
"Whatever."
Minutes later, he suddenly says:
"See? Now i see the numbers floating."
"That is because you've casted it on yourself."
"I haven't!"
"Dude, you're the only one with an enchantment on you"
"Yeah but i haven't casted it on myself."
"And what is the enchantment on you?"
"Dude, you never give up do you?"
"Just ping it"
"Can't it just timed out"
"And which one was it?"
"STFU!"

Another example:

Quote:

"Allriiighty, we're engaging ench removal heavy mobs. Mind removing your essence bonds for a while?"
"Sure"
"Yes"
"No problem"
After a while there is still essence bond on me. I click ping it and kindly ask again.
"Not mine."
"Mine neither."
"Nope."
"Okay seriously folks, this essence bond does have an owner and it is not me, i've got no monk class"
After 5 minutes of this discussion i just ran into a mob, took a few hits and watched who was highlighted by the effect - and then took the 100 damage from it being shattered.

I mean, seriously...
Is it that hard to actually double check on your side? Is it that hard to do something on your own? Is it that hard to understand the basic concept that there is NO best weapon and NO beast build and NO best class. Is it that hard to read a skill description? Or is it that hard to just have a look at Gwiki? Point is, even the best description is not as accurate as a map of the location with the boss being marked as a big red x.

And that is my gripe with Guilds as well as these kind of persons tend to be in it just like there are plenty of them in the game and in the real world as well. And they're probably even more annoying as they know that i know the answer and don't give up on pestering me about it. Well ever since i came to the point where i simply put the people on ignore things got a lot better.
Well they still don't think themselves but atleast they annoy someone else with it.
Sorry, i just can't stand people who are not capable of making own decisions.

Giga Strike · Nov 01, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

i like my guild members. any guild with a specific faction nazi who is rather famous among the kurzicks always seems to be orderly.

Daniel__ · Nov 01, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

"what is a 55 monk?"
"how do i get to hzh?"
"what is the best secondary for <class>?"
"what is the best weapon, sword or axe?"
"where can i get rid of my pet?"
"when does <event> start?"
"where can i get <hero>?"
"how can i make money?"
"can anyone give me <amount of gold>"
"wts <rubbish item that nobody except the merchant would buy>"
"wtb <expensive item> for <ridiculously cheap price>"
"how much is <something nobody would buy> worth?"

Carth join my guild, people like this get kicked.

Kusandaa · Nov 01, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Ugh, I can't stand beggers... sure I'll help every now and then, just like I get help when I ask for it, but it sometimes get to the point where I wish I had the authorization to kick (which, even though I'm an officer, I don't have due to guild rules).

I'll take an example - another officer and I were questing in Nightfall. A guildie gets on and automatically we KNOW what's gonna happen. "Can any1 help me with <insert quest/mission/item/armor> plz? i need it". The problem in that situation is that he JUST had missed a group going for it and continuously asked if people wanted to help him. He spent a long time asking... why?

Because, IMHO, people are tired of having him beg all the time and are reticent to help him. I had the other officer talking to him (else I was gonna blow at him, and I wanted to avoid it) and eventually the leader had to talk to him as well. The officer I was with also recieved a complain about him via PM, and I had some as well from other people...

I don't hate the dude. He's nice and everything except that when he wants something, he won't shut up about it. We can't always help everyone, and sometimes, other people want help. Maybe people are too selfish, I don't know.

Relambrien · Nov 05, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Well, overall I like my guildies and alliance members. Whenever anyone asks for help, they seem to get responses right away. Unfortunately, I'm usually unavailable to help, whether it be because I have limited time or I'm doing something that I consider to be more important than making a mission a little bit easier.

However, the chat can get annoying. It seems whenever someone logs on a bunch of "meow," "moo," "chitter," and other animal sounds ensue, because that's become the alliance's sort of "hello" phrase. And my guild leader seems to have a grammar issue, since he always puts a space before any punctuation, but that's just a pet peeve of mine.

[DE] · Nov 06, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Old 3FL-

Nope i dont.
<3 sms.
good ppl
good atmosphere
lots 'o' fun (which is more important to me)

QFT: The SMS guild as well as their alliance is the greatest thing I have ever been a part of in guild wars. Fun, good humored people as well as a fair set of rules concerning spamming and such makes it an amazing alliance to be in. I can't think of anything that really ticks me off with this one

eloc_jcg · Nov 06, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Mine is good because I am the leader of it.

Oh a GW forum · Nov 12, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

Not as much the guild but moreover something that annoys me about the community in a whole. The total and utter lack of autonomy. It's like some of them can't do a damn step without asking first.
I have answered questions, i have answered lots and lots of them. No problem, i know the answers anyways but what i really don't like are poeple that can't do a step on their own.

And sometimes they just don't like my answer at all, getting all pissed and aggressive even though it's just the way it is. I mean, seriously... they ask another person simply because they don't want to believe my answer. Meh, maybe i'm too sarcastic at times but if there is a huge button "Yes, create my storage upgrade" and people ask me what to click to get that storage upgrade i just can't give a normal answer anymore. Nope chummer, think for yourself a bit.
And something i really don't like is when they start to argue and hammer onto their "facts"

Another example:

I mean, seriously...
Is it that hard to actually double check on your side? Is it that hard to do something on your own? Is it that hard to understand the basic concept that there is NO best weapon and NO beast build and NO best class. Is it that hard to read a skill description? Or is it that hard to just have a look at Gwiki? Point is, even the best description is not as accurate as a map of the location with the boss being marked as a big red x.

And that is my gripe with Guilds as well as these kind of persons tend to be in it just like there are plenty of them in the game and in the real world as well. And they're probably even more annoying as they know that i know the answer and don't give up on pestering me about it. Well ever since i came to the point where i simply put the people on ignore things got a lot better.
Well they still don't think themselves but atleast they annoy someone else with it.
Sorry, i just can't stand people who are not capable of making own decisions.

Exactly... I think the problem with guilds I've had in the past is they were all just "SEND WHISPER FOR INVITE" types, who do absolutely no screening of member, and as such the quality of the members is pathetic. That's basically why I've been guildless for a while - if you randomly ask me "Do u want a guild?" the answer will immediatly be no.

I just joined a new guild were the guy was pretty stiff about what kind of player he's looking for, and that's why I think I'll like this new one. If I can get in a guild easily, i'm not interested. I want to be harrased, interrogated and scrutinized before I can join a guild, because it's the only idiot-filter you can apply over the internet.

What also doesn't help is that my patience with people is incredibly low and any type of "needy" question just annoys and pisses me off...

Vermilion · Nov 12, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Meh..I bounced around from a few guilds..prolly because Im just too picky. The only guildies I actually hated were idiots and thats to be expected I guess.

I actually found a decent pvp-oriented guild with active members on a skill level similar to mine..then disputes with the leader led to me leaving. I am close-minded..I know that..but I was at least open to some things..I guess the guildleader had a bad day, and instead of just telling me about this problem, decides to unload on my face, guildchat style.

Meh, Im kinda sick of choosing between pve guilds that will stay together and arent asses and pvp guilds that are generally the opposite..idk.

Feminist Terrorist · Nov 12, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

I'm lucky in my guild. I haven't had to put up with any bullshit or begging. At times there is more chatting than playing, but that's easily dealt with. All in all, it's a great guild, but I do wish we were just a bit bigger as sometimes I want to interact with other people than just the few I do now.

Peka · Nov 17, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

lol iv hated all the guilds that i have been in. so iv decided to just not be in one

Poison Ivy · Nov 17, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

I don't care about the people of my Guild at all, I simply GvG, HA, TA with them, and do my own stuff when I'm not.

Oct 23, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56	#22
Thallandor Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Singapore Guild: Seers of Serpents [SoS] Profession: R/	When you put conditions/requirements for someone to be your friend, that person has cease to become your friend.

Oct 31, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#23
Knight of Fate Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: The Purple Family [GANG] Profession: N/Me	Bad luck for you then. I love my guild leader. XD

Nov 01, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#25
Cats Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Singapore Guild: Charter Vanguard Profession: E/Mo	You have to enter a guild with the right attitude. Give, to be given. Help, to be helped. I detest people who just sit around and whine about how nobody cares to help them when they wouldn't lift a finger to do the same with someone else.

Nov 01, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16	#26
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	Yeah I have this problem too. The only thing that keeps me in a guild is if there are some people who I really like. It seems like 90% of the Guild Wars population are 12 year olds who ask questions like: "what is a 55 monk?" "how do i get to hzh?" "what is the best secondary for <class>?" "what is the best weapon, sword or axe?" "where can i get rid of my pet?" "when does <event> start?" "where can i get <hero>?" "how can i make money?" "can anyone give me <amount of gold>" "wts <rubbish item that nobody except the merchant would buy>" "wtb <expensive item> for <ridiculously cheap price>" "how much is <something nobody would buy> worth?" It would be OK if it was just the occasional question, but it's not. Someone asks one of these questions every 30 seconds, even if someone already answered it 2 mins ago. If they don't get an answer, they ask it again and again and again and again OH GOD!!!! Fine I'll look up the answer for you on GuildWiki! What makes it worse is that giving someone a very easy to understand answer often makes them start PMing you trying to get you to explain it further, even though there is no way for you to phrase it simpler. This could be because I'm in a big alliance that it is such a problem. If I have a question, guess what? I look on a website. It takes me 1 min to look something up, or do a search. And often, when these people are spamming guild/alliance chat with the question because nobody is answering, I end up looking it up for them just so that they shut up. I never had this problem in a small guild though, where all the members are your friends and you know them personally. It's just when you are in an alliance with 10 guilds, and each guild has 100 members that it gets very impersonal and turns into a Q&A chatroom. It just really gets on my tits when everybody asks for help doing stuff that you had to do for yourself to get where you are.

Nov 01, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39	#27
Sophitia Leafblade Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG] Profession: R/	I love my Guild & Alliance !! Everyone gets along, were all helpful to each other, We love to team up together and do things including just generally having fun. We may be a relativly small guild compared to some but we all would rather fight beside a few of our guildies than an army of random people (no offense to anyone ). Weve become like a family and we all look after each other.

Nov 01, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18	#28
Thorinfire Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shiverpeaks Guild: Ambassadors of Enlightenment [SAGE] Profession: R/	I actually really liked the Guild I was in "Redemption of the Phoenix" (xRPx). I was a member of that guild since its inception last March and also a member of its ancestor Guild "Fantasy Kingdom" There are a lot of good folks in that guild. One or two I didn't get along with but hey in any group sometimes there are a few. Now the guild leader is a different story, very prone to lashing out and making hasty judgements. A good friend of mine knew her back in the Diablo II days and says she was basically the same in that game. Well I stuck it out for the last 8 months because I really liked the members, I even recruited about a half a dozen people one of which is now an officer. Then I got booted last week, no warning, no PM at our website, no nothing. And Ill be the first to admit I haven't been very active lately because of some RL issues and I was kind of burnt out with factions and just waiting for Nightfall. I did log in about once a week none the less because the guild rule is no logging in for over two weeks and you get booted. I come to find out the guild leader, had another hissy fit and quit, and then rejoined the next day, and of course became the guild leader again. (Her husband also plays). The she proceeds to boot 18 people because we weren't active enough. No rule change, no warning, just a dumpex. Needless to say Im not going back. So ya I liked my guildies, I just dont appreciate a leader who doesn't grasp the concept of leadership...........

Nov 01, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11	#30
Giga Strike Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: stranded in vabbi this time Guild: None [N/A]	i like my guild members. any guild with a specific faction nazi who is rather famous among the kurzicks always seems to be orderly.

Nov 01, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#32
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	Ugh, I can't stand beggers... sure I'll help every now and then, just like I get help when I ask for it, but it sometimes get to the point where I wish I had the authorization to kick (which, even though I'm an officer, I don't have due to guild rules). I'll take an example - another officer and I were questing in Nightfall. A guildie gets on and automatically we KNOW what's gonna happen. "Can any1 help me with <insert quest/mission/item/armor> plz? i need it". The problem in that situation is that he JUST had missed a group going for it and continuously asked if people wanted to help him. He spent a long time asking... why? Because, IMHO, people are tired of having him beg all the time and are reticent to help him. I had the other officer talking to him (else I was gonna blow at him, and I wanted to avoid it) and eventually the leader had to talk to him as well. The officer I was with also recieved a complain about him via PM, and I had some as well from other people... I don't hate the dude. He's nice and everything except that when he wants something, he won't shut up about it. We can't always help everyone, and sometimes, other people want help. Maybe people are too selfish, I don't know.

Nov 05, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41	#33
Relambrien Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware, USA Guild: Error Seven Operators [Call] Profession: W/	Well, overall I like my guildies and alliance members. Whenever anyone asks for help, they seem to get responses right away. Unfortunately, I'm usually unavailable to help, whether it be because I have limited time or I'm doing something that I consider to be more important than making a mission a little bit easier. However, the chat can get annoying. It seems whenever someone logs on a bunch of "meow," "moo," "chitter," and other animal sounds ensue, because that's become the alliance's sort of "hello" phrase. And my guild leader seems to have a grammar issue, since he always puts a space before any punctuation, but that's just a pet peeve of mine.

Nov 06, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#35
eloc_jcg Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Guild: Guards Of The Citadel [GotC] Profession: E/Rt	Mine is good because I am the leader of it.

Nov 12, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49	#37
Vermilion Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NY	Meh..I bounced around from a few guilds..prolly because Im just too picky. The only guildies I actually hated were idiots and thats to be expected I guess. I actually found a decent pvp-oriented guild with active members on a skill level similar to mine..then disputes with the leader led to me leaving. I am close-minded..I know that..but I was at least open to some things..I guess the guildleader had a bad day, and instead of just telling me about this problem, decides to unload on my face, guildchat style. Meh, Im kinda sick of choosing between pve guilds that will stay together and arent asses and pvp guilds that are generally the opposite..idk.

Nov 12, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53	#38
Feminist Terrorist Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oh Noes! The 'burbs!	I'm lucky in my guild. I haven't had to put up with any bullshit or begging. At times there is more chatting than playing, but that's easily dealt with. All in all, it's a great guild, but I do wish we were just a bit bigger as sometimes I want to interact with other people than just the few I do now.

Nov 17, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#39
Peka Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: N/	lol iv hated all the guilds that i have been in. so iv decided to just not be in one

Nov 17, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#40
Poison Ivy Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Guild: Hopping Profession: Mo/A	I don't care about the people of my Guild at all, I simply GvG, HA, TA with them, and do my own stuff when I'm not.